You just made my day Judy and you didn't even know it! It does help to follow directions...apparently I wasn't too good at it. 1st time I did a/b on both the hst and qst's, then the a/b and b/c so now I'll resew and do a/c. 2 runners, I have lots of qst's for something. Need a little border on a wall hanging or something. All I can say is thanks for not letting me be all alone