Ok then I have both issues...forgot already what was in that latest one....I use my go die cutter for tumbler, a little smaller but works. I have the template for half hex and the troublesome periwinkle. Which, I must add is on that terrific app that bellaboo made mention of. It is called Arkansas star on that app and done with piecing without foundation. I will try it. Thanks for the info on that free app...it is really a good source of info....