I have a Q snap floor frame. I bought it years ago at Hancock Fabrics, thinking I would use it for rug making. I wasn't into quilting then. I thought I would like a longer narrower one for rug making. I knew DH could make it. DH has pvc piping in his shop and compared, the pvc piping used in the QSnap frame is much better quality. It's thicker and much smoother. The gripper pipe has grooves to hold and tighten the quilt. DH says the thickness and quality pvc used in making the Qsnap and would cost much more then what I would pay for a new one. If you have one and take it apart a lot, color code the pieces with a dot of color. Sure speeds up the putting together time. :D