I have one of the old ones and I think it didn't work on the Vision, but the new one does I think. I use it to wind a bunch before I quilt or to go to a class, matter of fact I don't think I've ever wound a bobbin on my pfaff (2038). And my poor old singer..it can still wind, but would rather not! I guess I would say if its not cumbersome to wind bobbins on your machine and you don't mind doing it, why buy something else?