Both. Have to laugh, this made me remember something really funny. My son's band teacher in High School raises llamas. Hercules was his oldest one and was at the county fair every year. My son love Him. So I get a phone call one day from the teacher....He asks when he can drop off Hercules..... I'm like "what????". Apparently Hercules wasn't playing well with the others and needed a new home. My son told the teacher we would love to have him and that I had already agreed... I did not want a llama. This was life with my Robert. One day someone showed up with a horse they had given my son.......He forgot to tell them I had said no. Have a great day all.
brenda in MI