Using the warm and natural batting, the SMOOTH side of the batting goes on top of the wrong side of the backing: then the "BUMPY" side goes to the wrong side of the top: ie, for your quilt sandwich, lay out the backing, wrong side up; place the smooth side of the batting on top of the wrong side of the backing and add your quilt top, right side up. I have done mine this way for years and don't have those problems...Good luck!