Nammie to 7 oh I'm so delighted to read your reply. I have tried and tried to explain to friends etc this technique we have. During the day I also use machines for piecing and quilting the evenings are hand work. I find this so rewarding and because I don't sit in one position all day doing one activity. When I go to a class from 10 to 3 I always suffer the next day with neck pain.