I totally hate them. if you want the nice new looking fabric, so often the jeans are plain with no styling. I like the styling of the newer Jeans that don't have the holes and fading but it is harder and harder to find. Usually if they have a stylish design they come with holes and fading. And so often the fading and creases are not even natural looking. I'm feeling like I will eventually have to make my own but seriously have no desire to make them. I hate shopping for pants.