Originally Posted by frudemoo

Having problems with figuring out what type of needle my two Phoenix machines take.

Both machines came with a flat shank needle inserted. Before I got my latest Phoenix, the manuals I had checked say that the machines take a system 1738 needle, which appears to be a round shank industrial needle. I have experimented with these in my Phoenix 250 treadle and haven't had success getting the machine to make a proper stitch.

Now that I have the manual for my 283F, it clearly pictures a flat shank needle, but it still says: system 1738. Am I missing something?? I can't find reference to flat shank 1738 needles online, so I thought I would seek help here. Hope someone can help!

TIA
Amelia