Its amazing how times have changed. I wear panty-hose when "dressed up", which isn't often. In colder weather I wear knee highs with either slacks or longer skirts. Many men just don't understand the discomfort of most panty hose, just as most women don't understand the discomfort of a suit jacket and tie that men wear. As for slips, its true, you rarely see them any more, except thrift stores (lol) or yard sales, but they are still needed because it is almost indecent to see a woman in just panties when they have on a skirt that you can see thru.