I got some new ones from my Innova dealer. She has made them easy to hold on to. (the circles and other shapes). They are a big thicker as the Innova hopping foot hops a bit higher than other long arms. That will not make a difference for other machines. She also has videos on her site on ideas for using them. I learned SO much in my new owners class I thought my brain was leaking! lolol
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