I love my 830 - I like to quilt on it, the embroidery unit is awesome. That machine can be very particular about how it is threaded,and the type of thread you use. Wouldn't trade it for anything. I wanted a long arm for quite a while but just don't have room for one. (my husband told me to take over the family room for one) Then I finally decided I didn't want to have to learn yet another process and another machine. Good luck in your decision!