blueheavenfla - Why not advertise in your local paper, LQSs [or on radio] to get together with fellow embroiderers who might like to sew and exchange ideas and information. Maybe your dealers don't know anything about the earlier 3D programs and won't make the effort. I've bought 3 Brother machines, 2 second-hand, and sorry I sold the oldest one. They are so user-friendly, and the books very easy to follow, I've never needed to have lessons. I do know Pfaff machines and software take a lot of brain-work.