I owned a Viking Designer 1, then and SE. Every trip to the quilt store I would literally drool on the Pfaff Creative Vision. Finally my husband said "just buy it!". So I did. I never did get it to work right. The store said it was not the machine but the operator. The Pfaff class was a joke! One day I called him up and said I want to buy a Viking Diamond and trade in the Pfaff. My Diamond has been a jewel since the day I brought her home. Never a problem! I love my Vikings. In addition to the above 3 Viking machines I also have a Viking MegaQuilter which I love.