I have to say, this was delicious. Tried it last week, the first recipe here, was posted on this board not long ago. Hubby loved it, he was tired of my old recipe which was my mom's (just tossed together). I did add onion as I can't eat a meatloaf without that flavor. This was really good and will probably be the one I make from now on. Next time though, am going to try a can of beef gravy or a packet and the water. Was also great in a hot dog bun as a sandwich, with the left overs.