The more I research sergers the more I want a babylock - air threader. I have looked on ebay some good prices but I don't think I want to buy a used machine for that much unseen. I have been checking craigslist in my state so far none. I will keep looking. There is a new babylock machine out so hoping the others will start popping up for sale at a decent price. I am in no hurry so will just keep looking.