Your story sounds familiar. Our guild has been in operation about 24 yrs., and I joined about 10 yrs. ago. Being "clickish" or un-friendly sounds familiar. The best way I have overcome it is to just join or go with my friends who are new or have been in about the same time as have I. Let the "big-heads" have it their way. They can't have the guild without our $$$ for dues. They really aren't that special; they just think they are! As for starting a new guild, I think it is possible, but would be a lot of work, I would think from what I have been told. Just hang in there! Mariah