Neesie and others who commented, I'm not opposed to other people crating their pets. I just want my furry ones to have full range of the house. I have researched the reasons pro and con on crating a puppy. What I do instead is give the puppy a safe place as soon as they come home, but it is not a crate. I do limit their space to a small room, where I can monitor them, and train them. I've always had my fur puppies trained to sleep and be safe near my bedroom. Please don't think I'm negative on crating, I just use a different tool than a crate. I apologyze for offending anyone on this subject. Sorry.