Aileen, you are right! There is a great deal of science and math in quilting. We are so used to it we don't even think about it. I belong to a group of hand quilters here in pa. We sit around the frame and quilt and talk, talking is my best part as I am new to hand quilting and have lots of room for growth.everyone is friendly and caring, we solve each other's problems, and the world's, all in a space of 4 hrs a week. We are quilting an Amish style quilt to be raffled off in December. We are putting good feelings of friendship and caring into every inch. I love these women! Each has her challenges, but we are all there to listen to each other. Hope you can find or start a similar group!