Thanks givio, I actually have not a clue and just found out none of them are right. None of the quilt shops within 70 miles from me have 30's, no wonder I have not a clue. Have worked it out I think and will make some sets, happy days I'll know what they are and I'll either like them or not but I will know for sure. Now the black and white with brights, Oh yeah, for sure!!! Thanks to our fearless leader she is helping me out with this and trading some FQ's so I can trade with all of you. Thank you j