I have never in my life shopped on Black Friday or the weekend following. I cannot do crowds. I drove by Walmart on my way to my in laws for Thanksgiving dinner and the parking lot was full of cars. I couldn't believe it. It was 2:30pm. They always have sales throughout December and I get in on them. Most of what I buy anyway isn't ever on sale. The nearest JoAnn's to me is 2 1/2 hours away and I've never been in it. When I was in Austin a few weeks ago, I went in to JoAnn's there for the first time to buy a spool of thread I needed and it was messy and seemed unclean. They had too many things - dried flowers, fake flowers. I thought it was a fabric shop, but apparently it's a craft shop. I had to wait in line 1/2 hour to buy the spool of thread. Are all JoAnn's messy and dirty? Or was it just this one store? I buy from them online (batting, ottlites, storage containers) and really like their online service. So, I'm hoping the messy, dirty store was just that store and not all of them.