Romille, I forgot to add -- welcome and when you feel frustrated or overwhelmed just remember that all the inventive and incredible quilters on this board were beginners at one time or another, no questions are dumb except the ones you don't ask that cause you problems later on and most important, you will never find a more informed and generous group of people than all of those I've encountered on QB. I can't tell you the number of times I've gotten answers to questions before I even knew there was a question to ask. So welcome and have fun. Joyce