yeah it was represented via txt msg as in great shape with ectra bobbins etc. Might have been a meth fog creating an alternate view of the universe. However they did accept my offer. Now I have some more learning to do. ISMAC needle list showed confusing choices as I'm not quite sure on the exact model. Guess I can put in a 15*1 and see how short it is if all else fails.Didn't see a manual on ISMAC.