I have the sliders and they are nice. I also use vinyl that I buy from walmart. It is nice and wide by the yard and I put it on my machine and the table that I quilt on. Make a little hole where the needle goes through and tape the vinyl down. It makes for a slippery surface and the quilt slides so much nicer and your arms don't get tired trying to control that weight. Hope this helps with your problem. Suzy