I have a Viking #1+ along with two other, more recent-one expensive sewing/emb, and the other just a computerized w/built in stitches.......really and truly I love the bobbin/ winder set up n the Viking, really dislike the drop in and winding system on the " new" ones.. Viking takes any thread without hiccups! I find myself using the viking most,and recently a daughter has discovered her too! So why are u buying a " new" one? If I buy again, I will definitely go HV!