Are we talking long arm or domestic? If you are talking longarm try paper pantos to start with. We comuterized ours after only a year and I love it, love it, love it. Intelliquilter It saves so much hard use of muscles and joints. And I love computers and don't have the patience to practice, practice, practice. Unless I am trying something new in the way of custom with the Intelliquilter then I love to practice.