I love old buttonholers. There are some that work with any machine depending on the shank - they move the fabric back and forth. The 'professional' buttonholers need zig zag. I think if you look at the piece it goes back and forth or the needle goes back and forth. I should get a couple out and shoot pics of differences. I'm kinda tired. Does anybody else hate day light savings time? The kidos have been over a few days in a row. Emma is so cute. She is very short 18in. I think she is the shortest DGK at birth. She is very petite. SO none of her clothes fit.