I have the viking diamond deluxe and it has one of the largest hoops out there for domestic machine, the largest one will do have the design and then you turn it around and it does the other half. I love it and I rarely use a small hoop, I love haveing the larger hoops and not being limited to what I can do, so I totally understand. I got mine, it was called slightly used because it was used at Viking's convention but it came with all of the orginal warranties and including the top of the line luggage. By the way, it only had one minutes of use, obviously it was set up but not used but since it was out of the box, my dealer was able to buy it and sell it for a way cheaper price. I love my Vikings. I'm considering getting a Pfaff when I upgrade my machine that I take to class, mainly because of the built in walking foot, after I pay off my emb machine, which is interest free.