(((I would stay away from an new Bernina....lots of trouble with them)))
I would disagree with this comment , I have three Bernina's and love each one of them
all of mine are embroidery machines and all have given me wonderful hours of sewing ,
yes the big 830 took a little learning because it is a different away of sewing it does patterns
and large sized embroideries , it can combine designs enlarge, shrink them ,curve letters spell them out down
as well as across . and that is only touching on a few o the features the 830 has ,the quality is as good as the first one I brought 25 years ago . Cathy