Joanns has them online for 449 with all the accessories, missing a few built ins, amazon has them for 400 missing lots of accesories and builts ins, dealer have them from 449-500 with everything. I got mine for 449 at LQS who is also a dealer with classes included and 10% off supplies for it if I buy them from her. My sewing machine dealer charges 500 and is a further drive also user classes are included so I opted to save 50 even though I love my dealer, the LQS is closer drive for me and also sells lots of cool quilt supplies so if I go I can see lots of yummy fabric. i haven't had my class yet, have to see when she is doing her next one, but figured it out pretty well on my own despite the manual