I paid $2500.00 for mine without a trade-in. It was from a dealer out of state, but he is no longer permitted by Janome to ship the 8900. I really don't understand why sewing machine companies have those kind of practices. If a dealer is willing to sell for less, they should be able to. The best price I could find in Texas was $3600.00, and since the closest dealer is a 4 hour drive away, it really made no difference to me where I purchased it.