[QUOTE=KalamaQuilts;6731527]with a trade in you will get a better deal
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KalamaQuilts,
I'm not so sure about that.....
I have purchased two sewing machines where I had a trade in available. First I talked to "my" dealer and asked what he could do pricewise. Then I looked at Patternreview.com, on the Yahoo group that is for the machine in question to see if the pricess were discussed, next I called dealers close enough to drive to and told them the price I found online and asked if they would match it. In both cases I found a dealer within 100 miles that would.
Then I went back to my dealer and gave him a new offer -- best price I could find with no trade in. It worked. Now I have a machine to sell, but I got a lower price and kept my old machine.
I think of it like buying a car -- they have to make a profit, but trade in's skew what you are really paying.