I have a Bernina 830 that I received in 1972, a Bernina 165 that is probably 25 years old and another Bernina 1230 that is also probably 25 years old. I love each of them. Keep them serviced and they are all true "workhorses." Unless I would win the lottery, I would not buy a "new" machine as I've found these older Berninas work well and are basically trouble free.