For real, stitchit123. No telling how many times I have done this. I usually wind up reading the lost and found kitties and get all stressed out and shut the computer down. I was on Google this morning trying to find what year my new (to me) Kenmore is, and finally gave up and came to read the postings on this board for today, the GD came over to clean for me, so there went my concentration on finding how old my Kenmore is. BTW, in the event anyone can check for me, 158 13450.