I don't have either, but when my ship comes in I will be getting a longarm on a frame....mostly for one reason...I do not like the process of guiding the fabric under the needle....it is backwards for my brain....I would rather move the needle over the fabric, like drawing with a pencil....I do fmq on my janome 6600 and can do ok, but it is almost torture sometimes finding a quilting pattern that I can make look ok....I love pantos, but it just isn't an option for me.