I have a brother 9000SE that I paid $140. for on e-bay from a dealer in AL (others here have mentioned their name in the past, to early brain not fully engaged. It as the needle up/down, and button with slider for speed control so no foot peddle needed, so you can go really slow and as fast as you want. Great for piecing but you would have to GAYG as harp space is small. Have some vintage machines for that. Bought it for the 80 stitches, something my older machines didn't have but only have room for one set up so that is it at the moment.