ok the third time was not a charm... I used Shout both try 1, 2 and 3. I used Borax on try 2. I used hot water on try 2 and 3.. I soaked 20 minutes on try 2....but try #4 I used put Dawn dish soap on the spots not washing out and now it all appears to be gone. Maybe Dawn dish soap is the trick.. or maybe it the 4th wash that did the job.
