My oh my, I was looking at those cabinets and thinking, "what an absolute waste", wonder if they got enough out of the irons to justify destroying those cabinets. But someone did make a good suggestion to hand-crank them. I am getting ready to hand-crank one that looks like one of them. I never was interested in HC before, but now I am really fired up on it. I guess until I get into it, and find out it is really more of a problem than I figured.