OK ladies, thanks for all your input about this. Here is the one I made for the swap. It has the insulbright and two layer of cotton batting. I was going to do a fancier one but I guess this will be considered intermediate. I am not so happy with the size and if I make anymore like this they will be bigger. I like to start with 9 inches. [ATTACH=CONFIG]498739[/ATTACH] Oh, I would like to see the Pie Potholder. Can anyone direct me in the right place!