Thanks all! cjsews, thanks the tip of clipping the chain. I've done that and voila, the 4-patch. Except that the seams fall to the light patches. Flipping them over doesn't work. I've just come in, so I'll be going to the links from nativetexan and onebyone. bearisgray, That is a good idea about unsewing but keeping the thread. tessagin, you are so right about EB. She tends to do things quickly. I really appreciate all of your patience and advice. Now, to the videos.