Brother has a new machine . I think it is the 9000. You can download from the internet. It is on sale for 599.00 plus a hundred dollar rebate from brother . I don't know if the sale is still on but i looked at the machine and it looked ok. Just a 4x4 embroid field. I bought a pacestter 8500 from a friend. I really like it. I have been doing towels. I jused the sticky glad wrap for the back. It turns out ok. Any remarks on it? I bought the ped basic from ebay. It hasn't arrived yet. The lady that sold me the machine sold all her software to someone for 20.00. Wish it had been me. She says it was outdated anyway. But I love the machine. I have heard of so many people who have them but don't use them. I wanted to go the cheap way first to see how much i use it. I love the thread cutter more than anything. Have fun ladies.