I have a Brother ULT 2003 D that I bought on Ebay and I love it. I use it for embroidery only as I have an Elna for sewing. I am looking to replace the Elna tho, and am considering another ULT or up. I also use Embird and found it to be user friendly and very helpful people around to help when you need it. I saw a ULT 2003D on Ebay before Christmas for around $1000.00 Wish I could have afforded it then. I paid way more than that for mine. I also have a Brother 180D that is almost brand new, bought it and then found the ULT so it never gets used. Anyone interested I am wanting to sell. As far as I know it only uses a 4x4 hoop, never really got to know it. I hope I can find my way back to this chat !!