EB way of flying geese ruler is too confusing to me. I don't like to spend money on rulers and templates if I can find another way. I have some of the same you have listed and a few others. I was going to purchase the Deb Tucker Hunter's Star but have found another way to make it. Squares and hst. I 'm good with those. I look through old (couple) books I have. I try to work with what I have.