thanks sewbizgirl will have to do some looking around, here in Jersey we have just recently gotten a few Dollar Generals, they are the first of the so called Dollar Stores around here. I did pick up a couple today before the next snow storm tonight so I can work on fanning them in the card, how do you get them to not shift out of the card, when you try to get them in the envelope? guess its a talent I will have to get use too, lol