same idea, love ancient grains, if you need low salt check out Pacific Rim for soup base, 3 % sodium. M y DH has to keep salt super low, nothing over 9 % so I'm the salt checker for all brands, some artichoke hearts are a3 % same brand but bigger pieces 21 %. also beware of cheeses. Watch for brands made out of US, they are much lower in sodium and chemicals. I shop at Tuesday Mornings, and Big lots because they get the stuff from the "high end" stores that are lo in sodium