Thanks for the lead Sondray. I am going to sign up now. Another subject, if you see a pattern for a mat for under a serger with a thread catcher I need it. I saw it somewhere and meant to get it and now can't remember where and did not put it in my favorites (even if I did there are so many things in my favorites I don't realy know what I have, lol). Anyway I just thought if you come across the pattern if you could let me know. Thanks!