In my search to obtain a machine that takes the longer "Eldredge/National" shuttle - I bought this one from shopgoodwill (came from Oregon).
It's a true Eldredge - made before National came into existence.
However the carrier fits the short shuttle. But I got to thinking - if some were converted, maybe I have a longer carrier in with some of my "Junk".
So I looked, and found one.
The left is what came with the machine, the right is the longer one.
The interesting thing - the only machines I have with a carrier like this are National ... (yes, I did look at them all)
This carrier looks like the one on the right, but is the length of the one on the left. This is one of the machines that I expected would have the long carrier, but did not.
The names listed on the Boye needle holder for the longer shuttle are all "badged" names used by National, but also other companies as many were Store names. So researching it by name isn't real helpful. And even the Boye case cross references the two -stating "Sell shuttle 22 if too Short" next to shuttle 13, and "Sell shuttle 13 if too long" next to shuttle 22.
I hoped that if I got an early Eldredge, it would take the long shuttle, however now I'm wondering if maybe the long shuttle was something National tried for a while (longer bobbin would hold more thread) and then gave up on shortly after.
I think at this point I am going to stop looking for a machine that has the longer shuttle carrier - and either mount the longer carrier on one of the National machines I bought that I had expected to have it (but did not) or just keep the carrier loose and call it good.
Which means I have a machine/carrier for each of the shuttles offered in the Boye needle case. I'm still one machine shy of having a machine for each needle - I'd need a WW #8 to complete that.