I do hear this time and again in different forums and I just want ti state that if you have not completed a type of technique do not assume it does not take skill. machine embroidery does have a steep learning curve. I am only 3 years in and still learning and struggling so it is a skill, you don't just push a button and out pops something beautiful. It can take hours just to do a simple project. The same can be said for computerized longarm you have to line up everything just perfect I have been told it is very difficult and time consuming and their is skill involved. While I feel that no one is obligated to like these type of techniques I feel they all shoulld be respected for their skill and technique involved and that they should not be criticized by those who have never done them that have no clue what is involved in them. I have just barely started to get decent at FMQ and am now learning ruler work on my DSM and would not like someone saying it not quilting because its done on machine or that if I use rulers I am cheating or there is no skill involved.