Thank you for all the information on the Bernina 830. I'm going to set it up and sew with it today and see what happens. I have two granddaughters but neither of them are interested in sewing. I tried several times to get them interested, they complete one project and that's it. I'd love for them to have this machine but they don't want it. They looked at me like I had the plague when I suggested it. Apparently they are workhorses and worth a few bucks.