I couldn't believe it when I answered the phone a little after six last nite. A lady named Vivian from Robert Kaufman apologized for Mr Castro's rudeness and proceded to tell me that they only sell first quality goods. They do not deal "greige" or "grey" goods. Production in Pakistan ceased in '08. They moved production to Thailand and became aware of the quality problems with the two fabrics early on. Because they were unable to correct these problems they have now moved to mills in Indonesia. They can no longer produce goods in Pakistan as the mills are no longer available. She did not elaborate why. She said they have only one quality and sell the same to JoAnn's, Hancocks, LQS etc. They do not sell any lesser quality under the Kona or Robert Kaufman name.